K thanks I'll have to check it out..I cought a bushnell about a month or so ago but when i got it sighted in at the 25 and then moved out to the 100 i wasn't even on paper and then i got it on paper but never could get it centered good and i even had a few other people shoot just to make sure it wasn't me..lol..it's locked down nice and tight on the rifle as well but i've heard from others that its hit and miss with those scopes some are good from the factory and some will never get on..